{"id":6268,"date":"2012-05-08T15:17:12","date_gmt":"2012-05-08T13:17:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/boilingfrogs.stanislasjourdan.fr\/?p=389"},"modified":"2019-12-15T16:14:06","modified_gmt":"2019-12-15T15:14:06","slug":"spain-iceland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stanislasjourdan.fr\/en\/2012\/05\/08\/spain-iceland\/","title":{"rendered":"Can Spain do as Iceland did?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-393 alignleft\" title=\"iceland_protest\" src=\"http:\/\/stanislasjourdan.fr\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/2\/files\/2012\/05\/iceland_protest.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"167\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 0.95em;\">The spanish governement is announcing a bailout plan for its private banks that could end up in <\/span><a style=\"font-size: 0.95em;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.eleconomista.es\/banca-finanzas\/noticias\/3946568\/05\/12\/El-Gobierno-y-el-Banco-de-Espana-preparan-un-un-plan-de-saneamiento-para-Bankia.html\">injecting up to 10 bn of capital in Bankia<\/a><span style=\"font-size: 0.95em;\">. Of course, Spanish people are not very happy about that. On twitter, the hashtag\u00a0#hagamoscomoIslandia (let&#8217;s do as Iceland did) is currently trending. But can Spain really do as Iceland did ?<\/span><br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">First, let&#8217;s recall what happened in Iceland. When its banking system collapses, the tiny Nordic Iceland decided to protect its national economy with different actions:<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li>establish capital flow controls ;<\/li>\n<li>nationalizing the three biggest banks ;<\/li>\n<li><strong>force foreign investors to bear around \u20ac60 bn of losses ;<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>suspend payement of deposit guarrantees to UK and Netherlands (related to the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Icesave_dispute\">Icesave case<\/a>);<\/li>\n<li>restructure household mortgage debt (but payements are still pegged to the inflation index)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">I would say that the two first items are a trivial when you consider the third one. Iceland simply wrote down almost all of its external banking debt, thus reducing 70% of its external debt.\u00a0Forget about referendums and nationalizing the banks! This, is all what Iceland is about:<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"iceland_ext_debt_euro\" src=\"http:\/\/stanislasjourdan.fr\/wp-content\/blogs.dir\/2\/files\/2012\/05\/iceland_ext_debt_euro.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"371\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-6757 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/stanislasjourdan.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/iceland_ext_debt_euro-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"371\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stanislasjourdan.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/iceland_ext_debt_euro-1.png 600w, https:\/\/stanislasjourdan.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/iceland_ext_debt_euro-1-485x300.png 485w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Note: this have nothing to do with the People of Iceland&#8217;s refusal to pay back UK and Netherlands.<\/strong>\u00a0This is a second affair that came later and was about deposit guarantees, not sovereign debt neither foreign bank creditors. By the way,\u00a0<a title=\"Iceland is misunderstood\" href=\"http:\/\/boilingfrogs.stanislasjourdan.fr\/2012\/03\/23\/iceland-is-misunderstood\/\">as I wrote earlier on this blog<\/a>, contrary to what is being said, the Icelandic bank Landsbanki is indeed repaying this specific debt to the british and dutch authorities. As it should do.<\/p>\n<h2>Could (and should) Spain do the same?<\/h2>\n<p>Spanish banks simply have <a title=\"Spanish (undoubtful) fact of the day\" href=\"http:\/\/boilingfrogs.stanislasjourdan.fr\/2012\/04\/18\/spanish-fact-doubtful-assets\/\">too much bad loans in their accounts<\/a>. Because they won&#8217;t get their all their money back from over-indebted people, they won&#8217;t be able then to repay their creditors. This is why they need some fresh money from someone. So, from a balance-sheet point of view, writing down their external debt would be of a great help.<\/p>\n<p>One the one hand, it would reduce any need of recapitalization with taxpayer money ; on the other hand, it would make mortgage restructurings more acceptable for the banks.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, this is perfectly acceptable in terms of moral. After all, investors were promised yields as a counterparty of a risk. If this risk is to happen, why wouldn&#8217;t the investors lose their money like they mostly\u00a0are today?<\/p>\n<p>So yes, Spain should probably do the same as Iceland regarding the write down of banking debt.<\/p>\n<h3>Ready to go alone ?<\/h3>\n<p>Now, there is one thing people have to understand. Iceland could do it because<strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/2011-06-15\/greece-ireland-can-t-default-like-iceland.html\">it had no other choice but to do it<\/a>.<\/strong> The tiny Island could simply not afford to repay any of these debts, that amounted to more than 10 times Iceland&#8217;s GDP. Is it the case for Spain? More, what if every country does it at the same time? I&#8217;m just asking&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Second, the difference is that Iceland is an isolated Island that does not have much obligations towards foreign countries. Unlike Spain for the matter, since it is chained to Europe both by the common currency and through the European Union.<\/p>\n<p>An Iceland-like write-down would trigger huge markets turmoils. Are Spain&#8217;s partners ready to go for it? Certainly not. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/finance\/2011\/0909\/1224303756157.html\">As the ECB did in Ireland<\/a>\u00a0under the pretext of preserving &#8220;financial stability&#8221;, central bankers will do anything it can to prevent spanish policymakers to do this. Others countries won&#8217;t be too happy neither, since their banks will take big losses (Spain has around \u20ac120bn of external banking debt according to BIS data) , thus provoking a\u00a0domino-effect global markets, with a possible feedback loop effect on Spain.<\/p>\n<p>Is Spain ready to have a lot of ennemies around the World?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">PS: Don&#8217;t get me wrong: I am not saying Spain should not consider this kind of solution: this is probably the most fair decision a politician could take. But there are huge consequences that require to be addressed in the context of the eurosystem. But maybe some hybrid solutions can be agreed like <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Debt_restructuring#Debt-for-equity_swap\">debt-equity swaps<\/a> and others soft restructurations.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pictures\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/2.0\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Paternit\u00e9\" src=\"http:\/\/l.yimg.com\/g\/images\/cc_icon_attribution_small.gif\" alt=\"Paternit\u00e9\" border=\"0\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Pas d'utilisation commerciale\" src=\"http:\/\/l.yimg.com\/g\/images\/cc_icon_noncomm_small.gif\" alt=\"Pas d'utilisation commerciale\" border=\"0\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Pas de modification\" src=\"http:\/\/l.yimg.com\/g\/images\/cc_icon_noderivs_small.gif\" alt=\"Pas de modification\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/8058853@N06\/4768174593\/\">Helgi Halld\u00f3rsson\/Freddi<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The spanish governement is announcing a bailout plan for its private banks that could end up in injecting up to 10 bn of capital in Bankia. Of course, Spanish people are not very happy about that. On twitter, the hashtag\u00a0#hagamoscomoIslandia (let&#8217;s do as Iceland did) is currently trending. 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